best #Auxlang #language for #Music

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Riku Kivelä wrote:
> What is the most fit planned auxlang for popular music?
I do have some understanding of music, and have read textbooks on
producing lyrics and writing songs, mostly with an eye for features to
include in an auxlang.

Basically a perfect tail rhyming language, where the words end in
vowels would universally be pleasing to the ear.

English actually is very difficult and indeed unnatural to tail rhyme
in, so it requires great skill and vocabulary to write tail rhyming
stanzas. It is in fact so difficult that many (English) musicians and
(English) modern poets have given up on it altogether or for the most
part or use alternative forms of "rhyme". Old English poetry was based
more on alliteration and stress-timed meter, which isn't as powerful
for music.

A perfect tail rhyme, is one where the stressed vowel and subsequent
sounds are the same, and the preceding sounds are different.

So for instance in trocpyac  the phonotactics is such that each word
has many perfect rhyming words, since there is only once final
consonant, and two initial consonants. for example there are 82 words
that rhyme with pyac, and 47 that rhyme with troc.
once conjugated they end in vowels.
for example:

mina trocci pyacka hzakli  /mina troʃʃi pjäʃka ʰzakli/ 
mina srocci hwacka ryakli  /mina sroʃʃi ʰwaʃka rjakli/
(I international language, speaker)
(I supportive world, thank)

that was actually 3 perfect rhymes, and usually it's enough to have
simple the one at the end of the phrase rhyming.

My theory is that we intuitively like perfect rhymes, since it is
similar to the "mother tongue(s)" from which we descend. which was
likely an SOV suffixing/post-positional language, that had
suffixes/post-positions ending in vowels.

The reason it is important to end in vowels, is that it is easier to
sing, since can hold the last vowel. Not having a short-long vowel
distinction is also important, as it gives more musical freedom on
which vowels to hold.

Hope that helps,
Logan

P.S.
In terms of my personal preferences, I generally don't like music that
has words, unless it have some positive or otherwise agreeable
message. Much of pop-music nowadays is not virtuous and not informative.

I would personally be much more interested in music that could for
instance teach me calculus, or educate me about machine learning.
Hopefully this will be possible in the future with AI generated music.

> 
> 2016-05-24 23:25 GMT+03:00 Paul Bartlett <bartlett@panix.com
> <mailto:bartlett@panix.com>>:
> 
> On 2016-05-24, Victor Chan wrote:
> 
> I want to know what make English superior over other languages in
> the music industries? If it is about socio-linguistics traits then
> that will not be much of an issues since English will (hopefully)
> lose its prestige to other languages like Mandarin. What I am
> really concern about is the possibility that the 'qualities of the
> language', as stated by Riku Kivelä, actually refer to the more
> innate aspects of the language; the phonology can give a certain
> sound quality while the morphosyntax and lexicon can affect the
> semantic aspects of vocal music. I do not consider aesthetics as a
> priority in the construction of auxlang due to its subjective and
> culturally dependent value. If the aesthetic aspects of a language
> can help it gain speakers then an auxlang will either need to
> incorporate those aesthetic aspects or have a aesthetic register
> for artistic/musical purpose.
> 
> 
> I do not have musical skill, and I will not pretend otherwise.
> However, my estimation is that the somewhat precedence of English
> in the popular music arena correlates with the relative dominance
> of English otherwise, not that English is somehow so superior in
> musical characteristics. I do not have widespread familiarity, but
>  so far as I know there have been some efforts at "popular type"
> musical productions in Esperanto, so I think it is possible in
> languages, including auxiliary languages, other than English.
> 
> -- Paul Bartlett
> 
> 
— Logan Streondj, A dream of Gaia’s future. http://joyfullifestyle.ca Speakable Programming for Every Language: http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/vocab/gen/start.html You can use encrypted email with me, how to: https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/ key fingerprint: BD7E 6E2A E625 6D47 F7ED 30EC 86D8 FC7C FAD7 2729
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